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  For a change, happy JW memories anyone?

  by ScoobySnax in

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  ....save the "the day i got out" posts, surely some here can dreg up some happy times of when they were witnesses, it can't all be negative.

  for me, i can remember some great people, some do's some co's some elders, some pioneers some just plain ol' publishers like me.

  come on everyone.......dig deep now.....

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  I have very fond memories of my parents, growing up, and my 2 sisters. We were a very closely knit family. But I attribute those fond memories directly to my parents treatment of me as a child and do not confuse them with the JW teachings of which my parents were so jealous.

  When I turned 16 , my parents, evidently out of not buying me xmas and birthday presents my entire life, bought me a car. It was, my lifes dream, a 2 door red and white convertible. Very sporty and racey for those days. ( 1970 chevelle Malibu, now a classic car with a 350 HP engine) Of course, being the good boy I was ( back then anyway) I used it to pioneer with. That was not well recieved by the elders in the congregation who all thought that a pioneer should be driving a 4 dor car, one that was less sporty. Dad was also an Elder and his respnse was " it is just a car" Of course I kept the car and enjoyed it.

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  Hit Me With Some Snappy Comebacks Puleeeeeeeeze!!

  by HadEnuf in

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  okay...so i'm invited to a baby shower for my daughter-in-law which will most likely be attended by myriads upon myriads of jw's.

  i won't go into the nasty details...but they've been married four years now and have another little daughter...their wedding was boycotted by most jw's because she was not baptized yet (but grew up a jw)...and my son was.

  so every since the wedding fiasco...they have been pretty much shunned by the jw's...and attend meetings infrequently.

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  hadenuf..

  take the high road and play it cool..you are above and beyond all of them now.

  You can afford to be the "classy role model" to all of them who are stuck.

  you can show them by your example that you will not literally"be taken over by demons" when you make ( or try to make) a graceful exit from that religion.

  Go for your son , and do not let them rob you of sharing this day with him. they just do not count anymore.

  regards, Frank
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  When Tinkerbell goes bad....

  by Elsewhere in

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  we all know and love our own tinkerbell82... but this guy is just sad... and disturbing.... .

  http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/petersfashionpage.html.

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  franklin J

  hey Tinkerbell82...

  if you are watching, listening and reading this thread... please say it ain't so....

  frank
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  WATCHTOWER WORDS

  by minimus in

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  it is true that jehovah's witnesses have their own language.

  an "outsider" might not have a clue to what certain words might mean.

  for example, "the truth"-----if a person heard that expression, they would never have connected it to only the jw religion.....can you think of language that is exclusive to "watchtower" world??

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  when I was a child and first started to be taken out in "the field service" ( thats a good one) , we would meet at a designated "contact point" . This term was later thought to sound "conspiratorial" and the euphimism was changed to the "rendevous for field service" ( like this sounded any less "conspiratorial" to any outsiders). At the time of my "disassociating" myself in or about 1980, I believe the term had been "meeting for field service". Do people still make "back calls"? as in "return visit". Is there still a "written review" at the ministry school on thursday nites?

  I now prefer to think of the term "pioneer" as an American term for a settler from the colonial era. My actual experience with that word in my late teen years and early 20s was, in retrospect, a lot of door to door distaste.

  regards, all

  Frank
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  I'm happy. . it's weird. . you too?

  by StinkyPantz in

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  over the last couple of weeks there have been a dozen or so threads about people having a bad day or bad week.

  i feel guilty because i have been quite happy lately.

  i've been making quite a bit more money; i've been getting 4 or 5 hours of sleep a night instead of none; i've made several friends at work.

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  Hey, stinky pants!

  congratulations!

  sounds like you are on your way! This is good news and I am happy for you! and make sure you finish that education, it is very important! the more you "drift away" from them and find new friends and more positive experiences, life will change dramatically for you. good luck!

  regards

  frank
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  OK My turn to be down in the dumps

  by Lady Lee in

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  well i had a lot of good news like no cancer and that was great.

  i am healing well from the surgery.. i finally got my wheelchair and that has allowed me a bit more freedom.

  but winter is coming and the wheelchair won't be very useful.. the orthotics.

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  Lady Lee

  I hope you are feeling better. This ordeal sounds like a tough one..

  the sun must be shining somewher in Canada

  You know it could be worse, you could have been expected to go in field service and meetings too! And the circuit overseer, during his harried visit could come and visit you with his concerns for you spiritual welfare.

  feel better,

  regards

  Frank.
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  Erica G.'s birthday

  by jazbug in

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  today is erica's birthday.

  i don't know if she still checks this board but just in case..... .

  love, jazbug

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  HAPPY B'DAY!!!! ERICA!

  is'nt it sweet?

  frank
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  It's finally over, the feeling is gone ??? how long did it take you ???

  by run dont walk in

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  it's safe to say 99.9 % of us were jw's at one time and believed in it, some more , some less, but even after leaving jw land did you still hold on to certain beliefs and customs ???

  when did the feeling come over you that, it is over, the jw beliefs are wrong, and honestly inside your heart you felt that way and that the whole organization is a scam.. how long did it take you to completely break free after you made the decision to leave ???.

  for me, i left back in the late 80's early 90's, but still felt armageddon was going to come one day, still believed some teachings, just didn't believe in the people/organization anymore, now after spending the last 5 years on the internet, researching beliefs, finding this board, which answered alot of questions.. i can truly stand up and say from the bottom of my heart that the jw religion is wrong and a scam, and why can't the other 6,000,000 people see it !.

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  I tend to agree with Phantom stranger. My experiences were similar. Once I stopped going to meetings and associating ( although I was raised in the "truth" and was a pioneer) it was easy to let go of the beliefs . The time did come when that happend. The problem became how to replace the "support network" of friends. It took time to replace the negative experiences (toward the end) with postive ones and new non JW friends. But it can be done, and well worth striving for.

  The religious beliefs were never replaced. Oddly, I do not feel the need to replace them. I consider the JWs, just like any other religion, they are free to practice their faith as the Muslims, Jews, other Christians of this world are doing. They can no longer manipulate me. The first few years were shaky ( it is only human to have doubts) . But as I moved away from them on a new and very positve life journey; surrounded by new friends ( far more open minded and accepting) my life literally "blossomed". The JWs or their narrow beliefs are no longer a threat to me: reference the line from " TheWizard of Oz" where Glynda the Good Witch tells the Wicked
  Witch " You have no power here, be gone with you , before someone drops a house on you too".

  I have more fun quoting old movies than scriptures these days!

  I realize how hard it is to make the break and can relate to anyone currentlly suffering through this. But a good positive mental attitude and a perseverance to succeed will help.

  I discovered this board 20 years after leaving JWs and although I am new here, I have an affinity with all of you whose posts I have read. I find it a comfort to be here communicating and am reinforced in that I am not alone with these old experiences, which have now become a part of my life. Sharing these experiences has become a bond.

  Look forward to hooking up with you all...

  Frank
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  A big issue for ex-witnesses?

  by JeffT in

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  after watching so many of the flame wars/battles going on on this board, ive reached a conclusion about what may be the biggest issue that faces ex-witnesses: learning how to deal with conflict is a new experience.

  in the world of the borg, there is no conflict.

  you conform to the group, or you are not part of the group.

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  franklin J

  Abaddon:

  you metaphor of the propellor was so "right on!"

  Frank
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  Are you going to HELL???

  by happyout in

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  my score was 78.. http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/helltest.swf .

  happyout

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  franklin J

  Going to hell...I scored a 125...this means I am either very OLD or very YOUNG ( I did take advantage of my freedom!)

  it does not mean that I am picking up a Watchtower or Awake any time soon...

  Frank